The Moe Norman Swing a “Crock of Bull”

Here is a new Youtuber after he watched me talk about Moe’s swing:

“I’m an ex-tour pro, and this is a crock of bull. You have to TURN YOUR SWING, learn what works for you, do not ever copy anyone else it will never produce the same result in you as in them! If it did, then there would be 30 guys on the tour that swing like MOE. It worked for him, find what will work for you!”

Here was my response:

Unfortunately, your “Swing your Swing” theory has left the entire golf world hopeless. Golf is in decline because it’s too hard. Statistics show that more than 90 percent of golfers who try to “Swing Your Swing” never learn to break 100. People who “Swing Their Swing” reach their potential within three years. If you’re a kid and have hundreds of hours to learn how to play maybe, you can find a swing. But 1/3 of all gofers today are over the age of 50. So much for your Theory. Time to look at science and not the same failing 100-year-old theory of “SWING YOUR SWING.”

I used the Ex-Tour mentioned above Pro’s method of learning how to Ski. I figured that “I could just figure it out for myself” so my friend and I grabbed our rented skis and took the lift up to the nearest expert slope. After almost falling off of the chair, down we went.

Yup. Down we went an understatement. I don’t remember how many times I fell, but I spent more time eating snow than skiing. My buddy went completely off the slope slamming into a tree breaking his leg. He spent the rest of our ski vacation in the bar and hot tub.

After falling down the mountain at Crested Butte, I found the nearest ski instructor. Nope, he didn’t EX TOUR pro me and took me to the blue slope and said: “let’s do this again and see if you can do better this time – good luck?” He took me to the bunny hill with all of the other beginners.

You guessed it. I learned how to ski and tame my ego on the fuzzy little bunny slope with the help of an excellent instructor.

For some reason, there is a theory of golfers and instructors that say that swings should be as unique as your fingerprint. If that is your thought process, then go to the range and figure it out. See what you can come up. You will end up exactly where I ended up your hands bleeding wondering if there is an easier way. That’s why Moe’s swing makes so much sense because it’s easier.

Look, I’m not saying Moe Norman’s swing is for everyone. 

If you are a guy who gets his thrills by hitting it 350 yards and losing a left shoe on every swing to prove that he can outdrive everyone in the foursome – the Moe Norman Swing might not be for you.

If you are an Ex-Tour Pro who can break par and already has a developed golf swing, the Moe Norman swing might not be for you.

If you are a person who is young and flexible and can twist like a pretzel and still get in and out of us of your sports car – the Moe Norman Swing might not be for you.

If you are already ON the PGA Tour and making a living, I don’t recommend changing to the Moe Norman Single Plane Swing. Keep cashing those checks on the weekend.

If you want to make sure you look like Rory Mclroy, Jordan Spieth or Ricky Fowler when to impress the beverage cart employee who drives by every fourth hole to sell you a beer, you might not want to Swing like Moe.

Heck, buy the most expensive wedges that Jordan just used to win his last tournament or the Driver that Phil just played the Masters. That is not what Moe Norman’s golf swing is all about. 

Done with trying to convince anyone to do anything. I’m just not into that. What is important to me is that I share with you my experience and my research which tells a different story and proves through personal experience, results and scientific evidence that Moe’s golf swing is an easier way to play a challenging game.

So go out and “Swing Your Swing” and have fun to play golf. If you get frustrated, hopeless or have back pain, you just might want to take a look at Moe’s swing.

Todd

Comments

25 comments on “The Moe Norman Swing a “Crock of Bull””
  1. Laurie says:

    Great Response,I am old,dont swing like Moe,but cant read enough about the Great man.
    Thanks Todd.
    Laurie.T. NZ

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    1. Todd Graves says:

      Thanks Laurie. I Love New Zealand.

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  2. Cameron Maclean says:

    TG: Don’t you just love absolutists? Nice rant.

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  3. Cameron MacLean says:

    TG: Don’t you just love absolutists? Nice rant.

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    1. Todd Graves says:

      Thanks Cameron. Absolutists? Absolutely. I just want to tell them it’s about having fun – not about the PGA Tour. Heck, I’m an ex-tour player too but I see golf from outside the ropes. It’s a great game if your having fun.

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  4. Dave says:

    Good response. If your tired of loosing expensive golf balls and your score inflating from penalty strokes ,
    Moe’s swing maybe for you. We are not trying to play on tour, we are trying to have fun playing good golf.

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    1. Todd Graves says:

      Yes Dave. Just have fun and hit some fairways and greens. Make a few putts too.

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  5. Grant Sweet says:

    I always hit it straight.do i hit my tee 250 yards no but i always hit it straight. Do I only hit a 4 iron a 140 yards yes but I am 86 and I always hit it straight.Do I think Todd and Moe are the best you bet I do.They always give it to you straight!

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    1. Todd Graves says:

      Thank you Grant. 86 and still striking it! I love it.

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  6. Lee says:

    Todd…for years now I have followed a single plane swing..NG and later with you. I have to admit that I went back and forth over the years but always come back to your instruction. I have most of your training aids which have helped immensely.
    (Break 80 once in awhile and a hole in one a few weeks ago!) I’m 67.
    Thanks

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    1. Todd Graves says:

      Lee, Im proud of you for giving the Single Plane a chance and being open minded. Keep having fun.

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  7. Bruce Kelso, Champaign, IL says:

    This is like saying that if you study piano, you shouldn’t follow the music. Or if you study martial arts, you shouldn’t do the forms. We won’t all be Mozart or Chuck Norris, but we’ll be far better at a much accelerated rate if we do because the music and the forms provide the fundamentals that form the foundation of the art. The program provided by the Single Plane Academy gives us a systematic approach to a fascinatingly difficult game. It works for me! Thanks guys.

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    1. Todd Graves says:

      Bruce. Good point. Follow form – I am going to use that in my teaching. Thanks.

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  8. Tom Costello says:

    Bravo!

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  9. John lawrence says:

    Very well said Todd.

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  10. Richard Hoehlein says:

    Well said,Todd . Glad you shared this with us.

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  11. Les Greenhalgh says:

    Just had on the weekend the exact same conversation with a stubborn poor who says golf is not a science to which I begged to differ. Moe proves that it is a science through his own hard work and perseverance. And I am so pleased the Graves school teach his systems Thanks to the Graves school team

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  12. Leta Armstrong says:

    Well said. I know it works for me and I’m a 62 yrs old lady that broke 100 and can’t say enough about how much I’m improving. Don’t knock it till ya try it! Definitely works!

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  13. david webb says:

    The “Swing your swing” proposition makes absolutely no sense. No teaching pro has ever told me I could grip the club any way I want, take it back the way I want, break my wrist any way I want, square the club face if ii feel like it, or use whatever muscles in whatever sequence the spirit might move me. They have all tried to get me to follow a ‘model’ that they thought, rightly or wrongly, will get me to improve the most.

    I started playing this game at13, when I started caddying, and eventually got a job working on the greenskeeping crew of a very upscale private country club. i played almost everyday of my life until I went away to college, and got pretty good at it. Then I didnt play for over twenty five years. Started pounding balls on the range at age 45, never came close to being as good as I was, and developed a bad back to the point where I couldnt finish a round, so i gave the game up.
    Unlike most people I enjoyed and find it therapeutic hitting balls on the range for hours at time, and missed that more than actually playing. I stumbled on your MN site and it made sense so, as you know, have been giving it a shot hoping at least to save my back and pound balls again. I know you dont recommend pounding balls as the best way to learn the single plane swing, but at 64 years of age I am out on the range again and can hit four buckets of balls every day without hurting my back. Am I tired afterwards and little sore- yes. But using the swing I am fine the next day and usually back out there hitting balls again. I know it has saved my back. The fact that I am also getting better on the course is icing on the cake. Its not that complicated…. If this guy had a least done a little research and looked at the mechanics he would have at least acknowledged that there is a reason why the Single Plane “approach” might be easier on your back and knees, in addition to being easier to replicate..

    ,

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  14. jim says:

    I’m 73 now, never touched a golf club until I was 50. I guess to say 23 years of golf only in the north country, where only die hard’s can squeeze out maybe 6 mouths of play, is a long time. But about 4 years ago I heard of Moe Norman only because I got a pc and peeked in on these free golf lessons That I never bought into simply because I’m lucky if I can even come up with the money I need to play golf with. Never the less I played and never took a lesson except from guys who weren’t much better than me for about eighteen years or so. So up until about 4 years ago I carried about a 12 to 14 handy capper for 9 holes. After that I came across Moe Norman on my pc. Loved his story and the thing I liked best about it is he wouldn’t play in the PGA. Anyway I’ve been steeling as much free info on him and how he plaid now for the last 4 years or so. Now I’m a 6 and 7 handy capper for 9 holes just in the last few years when I should have been getting worse. Who knows maybe I’ll meet him some day soon, and ask him how much I owe him. But he’ll have to play me for it.

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  15. Jim N. says:

    I started with your “Natural Golf System” about 15 years ago. I was 43 and have been playing for 27 years. I averaged between upper 90’s to low 100’s. Within a few weeks of just swinging the club in the yard I started shooting in the mid 80’s to low 90’s. Worked for me.

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  16. Karl Cameron says:

    Todd its time you made it to New Zealand , I for one will be at your clinic ” boots and all “. All the best , Karl NZ

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    1. Todd Graves says:

      Karl,

      Can you put a group of students together? I am sure I can get a few from my database. I would love to come to New Zealand. January?

      Todd

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  17. David Rann says:

    Hi Todd, Totally agree with your response. It is guys like that ex-Pro that are killing our game. I started with you some 3 or 4 years ago when I was off 19 or so. Having bought the DVDs, the online lessons and eventually decided to visit you in Florida last year I am now off 11 and can hit my 4 iron 180m, roughly 200yds and straight. I will be 70 next February. I could not have done this without improving my technique. So thanks to you and Moe, I now enjoy my golf………..most days!!
    Regards
    David Rann
    NSW
    Australia

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    1. Todd Graves says:

      Thanks David. I agree. Golf instruction needs to evolve. Personally I never stop learning and evolving my own understanding. The goal of course, is to be helpful to use any tools and information available to help others succeed. All of us, no matter our age, have so much potential if we just simply focus our efforts in the right direction. keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing you again!

      Todd

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